Monday, November 24, 2008

FOXHOUND Prototype: AbbyShot Responds!

Greetings patriots!

We've been following your comments about our exclusive first pictures of the FOXHOUND prototype and first of all we want to say a huge:


The response to this design so far has been overwhelming! And this is exactly what we need to make this coat complete. So without further ado, we've divided your comments into 8 major categories that we will cover one-at-a-time, with pictures where appropriate.
(We even managed to convince AbbyShot employee Mark to model the coat for us to show what it looks like on a person - because, well, mannequins can only tell you so much.)

Now - at ease, soldiers! And read on...

1. The Colour

This was probably the most hotly-debated topic in the preceding blog post, and with good reason! There are a lot of different versions of the FOXHOUND coat, and even within the same game, depending on the lighting, the shade of the coat can look different. Some commenters have said it should be a "tan" colour, some have said "olive green", some have said "dark brown", some "greenish brown", some "speckled orange". Just kidding about that last one ;)

Suffice it to say - there are many different opinions about the colour!

For us, when it came down to it, we fell in love with the colour of "The Twin Snakes" version of Liquid Snake's coat. It was due in some part to the campaigning of Metal Gear fan "Snake" who has weighed in several times on our previous FOXHOUND prototype blog post, but also because it's a rich and very wearable shade of brown.

"The Twin Snakes" was a complete remake of the first Metal Gear Solid game, and as our friend Snake pointed out: the darker brown colour of the FOXHOUND coat was the only drastic change in colouring in any of the character designs. Does that mean something? Interpret it as you will, but we found that this deep brown makes for a much more striking and wearable coat. We will be sticking with this colour for our final FOXHOUND coat.

2. The Fabric

On to a very related topic - the fabric of this coat. Another benefit of going with "The Twin Snakes" dark brown colour is that we found a great colour match in a very durable and high quality outerwear fabric. As one commenter very eloquently said: "I'm hoping this will be made of something very durable, so I could wear it as an everyday item."

Well, that's exactly what we've got here my friend :)

Please note, however, that this fabric is not waterproof as some had thought. Someone also mentioned that it looked like a "wooly" fabric, but this is not the case. It is a tightly woven cotton-synthetic blend.

3. Collar / Lapels

The lapels and collar of the FOXHOUND coat were a particularly tricky part of the design because we had to find a way to balance how the coat is supposed to look both opened and closed. Although there MAY be some tiny tweaks to be made (mostly to the collar area), we've got some new pictures here that will hopefully showcase the functionality of the lapels of this coat.

AbbyShot's Prototype of the Metal Gear Inspired Liquid Snake FOXHOUND Coat - Showing Off the LapelsAbove are the lapels worn differently, with the collar turned up.

AbbyShot's Prototype of the Metal Gear Inspired Liquid Snake FOXHOUND Coat - Opened Up CoatHere is the coat pushed way back, like many of the design sketches of Liquid Snake in his trench (we didn't have a wind machine handy, so we had to settle for "hands in the pockets").

AbbyShot's Prototype of the Metal Gear Inspired Liquid Snake FOXHOUND Coat - Buttoned Up CoatAnd of course, the coat needs to button up properly! My how it does ;)

So the lapels really do strike that balance of looking good buttoned up and opened up, and we would only make minor changes here so that we may preserve both important "looks" of the coat.

4. Shoulder Pads

Many thought the distinctive shoulder pads of this coat needed to be a little more defined - especially in terms of the stitch lines. We agree, and are taking into consideration the best way to go about this change (double-stitching, more padding, etc) as we prepare the final FOXHOUND design.

As for "bringing in" the shoulder pads as some had mentioned - this is a tougher call because they are meant to be a prominent part of the coat. We also need to allow for a functional armhole and sleeve, so a balance between the right look and functionality needs to be found. We'll see what we can do, but have a look at the above pictures again to see that the shoulder pads are "filled in" a bit more by having an arm in there (something our silver mannequin is sadly lacking! ;)

5. Buttons

We are definitely going to go with darker buttons for the final version of this coat, not to worry.

As for the commenter who had some buttons come off previous trench coats (hopefully not from us! ;) we can assure you that all of our buttons are carefully sewn on by hand and we also include a replacement button with each coat JUST in case.

6. Waist

Many of you wonderful, eagle-eyed fans also noticed that the waist of this coat should be more tapered, and you are correct! The waist of the final design will be more tapered in, and the belt will also be more snug to fit closer to the waist. So that "Liquid Snake Look" can and will be yours!

7. Cuffs

To quote Snake (and many others): "the cuffs shouldn't be so tall". You are exactly right, and this will be adjusted on the final version of the design.

8. Tail of the Coat

A few commenters also pointed out that there should be a split in the tail of the coat and this is absolutely right. It's also something that we DID include in the prototype! It just wasn't clear from the previous pictures, we're sorry about that! Here's a photo to show you:

AbbyShot's Prototype of the Metal Gear Inspired Liquid Snake FOXHOUND Coat - Tail of the CoatWe also saw that many of you thought the coat was a tad too short and we agree with you here as well. We will be adding to the finished length of the garment.

It's almost time for us to sign off, but hopefully we addressed all your concerns here in this follow-up post. Feel free to respond to our response though if we missed anything; we will still be checking the blog every day for your thoughts and opinions.

It won't be long now until you'll be able to truly become a member of the FOXHOUND group - and AbbyShot is happy to serve this greater cause!

Thanks again for all your great comments, and stay locked on this frequency for all future updates.

This is AbbyShot, signing off once again.

Over and out.


Kevin said...

Thanks for the response! I look forward to buying one.

Protoman said...

I really wanted my color Big boss
I am a little disappointed: (

and then what period can be put?
Winter, summer?

Snake said...

An excellent feedback summation, AbbyShot team. No complaints, although I do hope you'll be resizing or at least reshaping the lapels as per the diagrams I sent you.

Now we have finalized product pictures and release date news to look forward to. Hopefully, in time for Christmas!

Lux said...

im loving the coat, and the colour is starting to grow on me more (even though i would love a big boss coloured one lol) i read all the posts on the protype i think youve listened very well to all the points made, just need the price tag now.

Justin said...

That's fair. I really appreciate the fact that you have addressed everything, in one way or another! While upon further reflection, I find the darker brown to be acceptable, but it's not what my mind's eye always imagined. I'm sure that it will be a great product. However, I do not know if I will purchase it immediately and without remorse (or at all), like I would if the style was different. I respect AbbyShot for the products that they provide and the FOXHOUND coat has always been something that I wanted. For me, now it depends on the final cost and the revisions. If both are palatable, then I'll certainly purchase the item! Thanks again for the hard work and dedication to this project.

Anonymous said...

I'm also a little disappointed and won't be buying it because of the color thing, but I hope it sells well. Perhaps I'll spend my money on the Enigma instead. ;)

Snake said...

Last I was told, the price range for this item was $349-$399 USD.

If that hasn't changed, hopefully we can all order in time for Christmas.

Cyan Bloodbane said...

Looking rather ace! I'll definitley be buying one.

I'll agree that "Twin Snakes" has much more clear looking images, and that probably came in handy for this project. (Although, as a remake, Twin Snakes was terrible. Completley ruined the feeling of the original, and all the music was changed, the realism killed off, ect...blegh, not Kojima's vision)

But back to the point, I know a very special lady friend of mine who will be getting one of these for Valentines day : )

G.L. said...

I am interested and the actual version looks great.
I don't understand..

1. The price.. if it's under 350 USD i will buy the soon as possible.
2. If this version we see in the post it's the FINAL VERSION or not.

Can soemone answer me? Thanks.

AbbyShot said...

Hi GL!

Thanks a lot for your questions.

1. We're doing some final tweaking to this coat design, so the price will be finalized soon. As Snake said in his earlier comment, we are trying to keep it around $349 - 399 USD.

2. This version worn in the post is still the prototype version; we just wanted you all to see how great the coat looks on a person! It is CLOSE to the final version, but we will be doing the small changes mentioned in our above blog post.

To answer Protoman's question, we are hoping to release this coat in this Winter Season, but the EXACT timing is still up in the air!

We'll have an update for you as soon as these last details are finalized. Thanks again for your great comments!

All the best,

The AbbyShot Team

Alexander said...

Why a cotton-synthetic blend? I was really hoping for a waterproof one... oh, well, as long as it's warm, at least, I'll still get one. How warm is it? Or is it just for show?

Anonymous said...

that looks real good already!!
ive wanted one of them since metal gear solid came out,what,ten years ago?
please keep this project going abbyshot,it looks baddass.

Ramen King Roshi said...

Wow, I remember rallying for this in the forums AGES ago. IT's amazing to see some of these ideas still being worked on. Coat looks gorgeous as well!

AbbyShot said...

Thanks for the extra comments folks!

To answer Alexander's question: this is a very high quality outerwear fabric we're using. Like everything AbbyShot does: this is definitely NOT just for show! All of our coats and jackets can handle everyday wear (and pretty much anything your life can throw at you).

So not to worry, the FOXHOUND Trench will indeed be up to our high quality standards.

Oh, and happy holidays everyone!